Spiritual leaders need to be powerful too. Too often we fall into victim roles and see ourselves as helpless.In our material world, we look at wealth or politics as means to control events and manipulate or dominate people to get what we want. However, spiritual power is critical in our lives and is often misunderstood. In this episode with Rich Tafel we look at the importance and need for spiritual power that allows us to overcome the hells, and keep up the fight to do good.