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How to Build a World-Class Sales Motion with Lindsay Crittendon


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Episode #208: Lindsay Crittendon — Build a repeatable revenue system without spam

Outbound email is an impression now—not a response channel.
For seed to Series C revenue leaders building a real funnel and motion.

Lindsay Crittendon (CRO, Taylor Bird) breaks down how to build revenue strategy that persists—grounded in how customers actually use your product, not heroics. She explains why the first diagnostic is retention and product usage, why most “can’t close” problems are positioning problems, and how to define a real ICP that’s clear enough to make your CEO uncomfortable. You’ll also hear her decision rule for go-to-market motion (match price and buyer behavior), why founders own sales until $1–$2M in revenue, and how to design simple comp plans that don’t bankrupt you—starting with budgeting 20% for commissions.

What you’ll hear
  • How to diagnose revenue: product usage/retention first, then positioning, then conversation quality
  • How to define a real ICP (including a focused 500–600 company target list) and why focus beats “TAM”
  • Why cold outbound email is mostly broken—and how to treat it as impressions instead of expecting replies
  • How to pick PLG vs sales-led vs hybrid based on willingness to pay, and when to hire your first AE
Chapters

Chapter topics (no timecodes).

  • 00:00 — Why outbound is broken and email is just an impression
  • 02:18 — Revenue strategy: persistent money over time (not heroics)
  • 02:48 — What teams overlook: post-sale truth, customer usage, and what customers care about
  • 04:16 — Diagnosing a revenue org: retention, positioning, and conversation quality
  • 05:52 — ICP discipline: make it small, specific, and repeatable
  • 07:11 — Choosing the right motion: match price and buyer behavior (PLG vs sales-led)
  • 09:21 — Outbound today: stop expecting replies; use it for cheap impressions
  • 10:25 — Minimum viable sales process: founder-led until ~$1–$2M
  • 11:55 — Hiring and comp: budget 20% for commissions and keep plans simple
  • 14:31 — Sales + marketing operating rhythm: partnership, respect, and shared accountability
  • 16:23 — Speed round: product usage, discovery questions, stalled deals, and picking up the phone
  • 17:15 — Building momentum: “what’s the first thing we can do together?” (mutual NDA example)
  • 18:07 — Turnarounds: proving lost PMF with data, then fixing product and positioning
  • 19:39 — Where to find Lindsay and what to reach out about
Links & resources

Guest
Lindsay Crittendon — CRO, Taylor Bird

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