At NuMinds we've always emphasized the need for divergent thinking and lateral problem solving. We've created programming that nurtures creativity and an innovation mindset by engaging students and teachers in narratives that require open-ended problem solving and persistence.  

But what a joy and an honor to interact and pick the brain of someone who completely embodies this thinking and mindset, and does so for a living. Phnam Bagley is a designer and creative director with experience in a vast array of fields and disciplines, from aerospace to biotech, and she joins Ben on the podcast to talk about how she and her teams tackle the creative process. Highlighted are the importance of empathy and deep collaboration in order to design a human-centered future.  

We think you'll love this organic conversation that covers the gamut on creativity from the philosophical to the very pragmatic. Hear about how Phnam and her team tackled unconnected over-ear headphones, a biotech device to help those with tremors, and what they have in mind for the future of air travel!  

You can find and follow Phnam and her work at the following channels: 

Web: https://nonfiction.design/ 

Email: [email protected] 

IG: @nonfiction.design 

TT: @nonfictiond or @phnambagley 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phnambagley/