How to Make a Leader

How to develop leaders in a distributed, AI-augmented world


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Your managers are leading people they've never met in person, on teams that include both humans and AI agents. Most leadership programs weren't built for that.

Kameko Leung has built leadership development programs at Zillow, Michael Page, and now Pinterest, and she knows what it takes to develop leaders for that reality. She breaks down what distributed leadership requires: the operating systems, trust-building practices, and program design that make it work.


Things to listen for:
(01:47) Developing leadership in a distributed environment
(03:28) Adapting leadership programs for remote teams
(08:11) Building trust and collaboration in virtual teams
(10:59) Developing leadership instincts in remote environments
(13:50) Integrating AI into leadership training and development
(16:54) Using AI to improve feedback and manager training
(18:55) Coaching circles and peer-led leadership development
(21:15) The evolving role of managers in an AI-augmented world
(24:14) What strong AI leadership actually looks like
(25:40) How AI is changing learning and development roles
(27:47) Leadership advice for building trust in virtual teams


About Kameko Leung:


Kameko Leung manages Leadership Development programming for Pinterest and is the Founder of Bloom Mindset Consulting. With over 10 years of experience in learning and development, Kameko has experience providing the right developmental opportunities for leaders at each transition stage of their career journey - from aspiring manager to executive. With a special focus on leading and managing remotely, Kameko has worked with teams across tech, education, recruitment, engineering, sales, and non-profit to support leaders to evolve their practices and strategies for today's work environment. Kameko is a CPTD credential holder and actively involved in the talent development community.

Connect with Kameko on LinkedIn and check out her dog treat company: The Seattle Barkery

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