"We need to think deeply about cultivating that mindset of collective survival, of needing to understand each other and work together, even if we don’t like each other, and would never actually choose each other, because this is the 'us' we’ve got in an us versus them situation," says Kelly Hayes. In this episode, Kelly and guest Shane Burley discuss the realities of organizing under a federal government that’s been captured by the far right.

Music: Son Monarcas and David Celeste

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