The Ringer's Ben Lindbergh and Jason Concepcion talk to colleague Justin Charity about how he's made up for lost time after an extended hiatus from gaming (2:10), his recent article on streaming culture (8:46), his second (!) playthrough of the lengthy RPG 'Persona 5,' (19:30), and his first impressions of the newly released 'Prey.' (21:47). Then, Ben and Justin talk to Stephen McArthur the "Video Game Lawyer" about the legality of fan-made games (26:55), how video game developers protect their copyrights (33:17), how legal practices that specialize in video games have proliferated (43:35), and his own experience of trying to balance school and pro gaming in the early years of e-sports (46:34). Lastly, Jason shares his thoughts on the first-person horror game 'Outlast 2.' (54:45).

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