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Sunjay Singh is this weeks guest. He is in the sales
and marketing world. He has a video agency which he runs with his co-founder, live media UK and a small marketing company which provdes marketing managers for small businesses called Lambardar marketing.
Marcus asks how it started. Sunjay says Will (co-founder) and him had never had “proper jobs”. Sunjay said when he was 14 or 15 his Dad walked in told him he had to photograph a wedding and then left. Sunjay had never taken a picture before in his life. His Dad had always enjoyed photography, But he ended up working at British Aerospace. But his Dad always had a side hustle and was doing two jobs. So for a while he did wedding video and photography and Sanjay was the photographer. The weddings were British Asian weddings which were a minimum of 3 day events. He said there were so many people, often 50 to 60 people in a 2 bedroom house in Cardiff. Each wedding day could be 14 hours. He could leave one day at 1am and be back the next day at 5am. He says he got better very quickly as he was talking so many pictures in such a short space of time.
They stopped doing British Indian weddings as the
hours were so long and pay so low and moved onto British weddings. But eventually he got fed up doing weddings,
he had done too many. He was then getting more corporate work and they dropped weddings. But what that time gave him was a work ethic. Sunjay says if you want to get good at your craft, you have to do the reps. Do it again and again. It’s not just about working on one shot it’s about doing it again and again. If you are creative and not constantly developing your craft that is a dangerous place to be.
Now Sunjay is running a video agency using videographers
who work for him. He also uses photographers in his agency. Sam asks how Sunjay decided which photographers to work with. Sanjay says that anyway
running a business needs to wear many hats and possibly masks. When you are speaking to Sanjay and talking about logistics, don’t be a creative, at that point you need to be a business person. He says if it helps, where a tie when you do your emails. Get into the mindset of being a business person. When you are on the shoot, be creative. But be the reliable business person at other times, especially when
discussing logistics. The other thing Sanjay looks for is composure. He needs them to be confident and composed. If the photographer doesn’t turn up composed
and confident then that is hopeless. The photographers needs to stay calm no matter what the shoot throws at you.
Speed is another thing. Both getting the shot and getting
the photographs back. Clients expect the photos back very quickly. They know it is digital and so expect the photographs very quickly.
Yous presentation is also important. Sanjay has seen too many scruffy photographers. By being scruffy you are showing don’t care about aesthetics. You are signalling that you don’t care about aesthetics which gives the wrong message.
Sam asks how a photographer can go about getting agency work. Sanjay says there is no clear answer, but the key thing is relationship building and being in the right place in the right time. For example Sanjay
meets lots of photographers, but he doesn’t have a shoot that week and the photographers never get in touch again. They need to stay in touch.
Sanjay then says make a list of ten people you want to work with. Get in touch every month and then every other month arrange an in person meeting. Don’t chat work, or ask for work, just build a relationship and some of them will give you work.
Sanjay mentions a book The Creative Act, Rick Rubin. He says this is an amazing book.
You can connect with Sunjay on LinekdIn
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By Sam HollisSunjay Singh is this weeks guest. He is in the sales
and marketing world. He has a video agency which he runs with his co-founder, live media UK and a small marketing company which provdes marketing managers for small businesses called Lambardar marketing.
Marcus asks how it started. Sunjay says Will (co-founder) and him had never had “proper jobs”. Sunjay said when he was 14 or 15 his Dad walked in told him he had to photograph a wedding and then left. Sunjay had never taken a picture before in his life. His Dad had always enjoyed photography, But he ended up working at British Aerospace. But his Dad always had a side hustle and was doing two jobs. So for a while he did wedding video and photography and Sanjay was the photographer. The weddings were British Asian weddings which were a minimum of 3 day events. He said there were so many people, often 50 to 60 people in a 2 bedroom house in Cardiff. Each wedding day could be 14 hours. He could leave one day at 1am and be back the next day at 5am. He says he got better very quickly as he was talking so many pictures in such a short space of time.
They stopped doing British Indian weddings as the
hours were so long and pay so low and moved onto British weddings. But eventually he got fed up doing weddings,
he had done too many. He was then getting more corporate work and they dropped weddings. But what that time gave him was a work ethic. Sunjay says if you want to get good at your craft, you have to do the reps. Do it again and again. It’s not just about working on one shot it’s about doing it again and again. If you are creative and not constantly developing your craft that is a dangerous place to be.
Now Sunjay is running a video agency using videographers
who work for him. He also uses photographers in his agency. Sam asks how Sunjay decided which photographers to work with. Sanjay says that anyway
running a business needs to wear many hats and possibly masks. When you are speaking to Sanjay and talking about logistics, don’t be a creative, at that point you need to be a business person. He says if it helps, where a tie when you do your emails. Get into the mindset of being a business person. When you are on the shoot, be creative. But be the reliable business person at other times, especially when
discussing logistics. The other thing Sanjay looks for is composure. He needs them to be confident and composed. If the photographer doesn’t turn up composed
and confident then that is hopeless. The photographers needs to stay calm no matter what the shoot throws at you.
Speed is another thing. Both getting the shot and getting
the photographs back. Clients expect the photos back very quickly. They know it is digital and so expect the photographs very quickly.
Yous presentation is also important. Sanjay has seen too many scruffy photographers. By being scruffy you are showing don’t care about aesthetics. You are signalling that you don’t care about aesthetics which gives the wrong message.
Sam asks how a photographer can go about getting agency work. Sanjay says there is no clear answer, but the key thing is relationship building and being in the right place in the right time. For example Sanjay
meets lots of photographers, but he doesn’t have a shoot that week and the photographers never get in touch again. They need to stay in touch.
Sanjay then says make a list of ten people you want to work with. Get in touch every month and then every other month arrange an in person meeting. Don’t chat work, or ask for work, just build a relationship and some of them will give you work.
Sanjay mentions a book The Creative Act, Rick Rubin. He says this is an amazing book.
You can connect with Sunjay on LinekdIn
To get the Shoot to the Top Podcast in your inbox every week to ensure you don't miss an episode, click here
Join the Shoot to the Top Facebook group to meet fellow photographers, guests and Sam and Marcus