This episode covers the challenge of scaling leadership and why starting, staying, and sustaining growth each demand different skills. From the early days of casting vision with words, to embedding values into culture through repetition, Jason and Dave unpack how communication shifts as an organization grows. They explore the difference between leading with vision and leading with values, the process of crafting language that sticks, and the conviction required to guard against compromise when outside pressures promise money or influence. This conversation is both a practical guide to scaling leadership and a reminder to protect the convictions that gave birth to the work in the first place.

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