UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders

How to Lead When Everything Shuts Down


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In this episode of UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders, hosts Dr. Troy Hall and Ben-Jamin Toy chat with Mathias Lemos Castillo, founder of MLC Consulting.

Mathias shares his most recent UH-OH moment: leading a presentation for board members when his laptop suddenly shut down mid-session. With only seconds to react, he pivoted to a backup computer, reconnected, and carried on, proving that leadership often comes down to staying calm, moving quickly, and keeping the show going.

The conversation explores:

  • How Mathias mobilizes, listens, and connects in his work
  • Why acknowledging mistakes and moving forward builds credibility
  • The role of growth mindset and fluidity (“move like water”) in leadership
  • Practical lessons for handling technical failures and unexpected challenges

Mathias also reflects on advice from mentors, the importance of mindset when pivoting careers, and how he helps organizations strengthen their boards and communities.

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UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive LeadersBy Cohesion Culture