Today we face a global pandemic, an upcoming election that many are acknowledging has a lot at stake, and a movement for black lives and against police brutality. With this in mind - whether with family, friends or people on social media - important conversations are being had about these pressing issues. KCSB’s Aubrey Valerio spoke with Tania Israel, a professor in the Department of Counseling, Clinical and School Psychology at UC Santa Barbara, about the steps it takes to have a healthy conversation in a divided nation.