The Talking Youth Work Podcast

How to Support Learning with Dr. Barbara Oakley, season 4, episode 7


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Hello Dear Listeners,

In this episode we had the absolute pleasure (and a bit of a "starstruck" moment) of talking to Dr. Barbara Oakley, a professor of engineering, researcher, and the mind behind some of the most popular online courses on the planet, including the famous Learning How to Learn” and Mindshift”.

Youth workers, often pride themselves on creating engaging, social, and beautifully designed non-formal learning experiences, but Dr. Oakley poses a slightly uncomfortable question:

  • Are the methods we cherish really helping our learners retain information, or are they just distracting them from gaining true expertise?
  • The younger generations have been told to "Just Look it Up", and according to to Dr. Oakley that is a myth. We’ve often been told that in the age of Google and AI, memorisation is dead. "Why learn the multiplication tables when you have a calculator?"

    Dr. Oakley argues that this approach actually cripples the brain. Without internalizing "neural schemas" we lack the internal "radar" to realize when something is wrong. If a student hasn't memorized basic patterns, they can't think critically about the complex outputs AI gives them. To truly innovate, you need a foundation that is "rock solid," built through the very thing modern education often avoids: repetition and practice.

    In the youth work field, we talk a lot about psychological safety. However, Dr. Oakley warns against the misuse of "safe spaces" where young people are protected from any emotional distress or differing opinions.

    True critical thinking, she argues, requires the discomfort of hearing conflicting views and opinions. When we create environments where young people are afraid to speak for fear of causing offense, or where they never learn to truly listen to someone they disagree with, we aren't protecting them we are leaving them unequipped for the real world.

    This episode is an invitation to balance our love for creativity with the neurological necessity of discipline and foundational knowledge.

    Whether you are a teacher, a youth worker, or a lifelong learner yourself, this conversation with Dr. Barbara Oakley will leave you with plenty of "food for thought" to chew on for a long time.

    For any ideas, comments, or suggestions, feel free to email us at [email protected].

    This episode is part of the Inception of Learning project, funded by the Erasmus+ Youth Programme, which supports youth workers, trainers, and educators in delivering high-quality learning experiences for young people in the context of Generation Z and Generation Alpha.

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