Bob and Penny Armstrong are this episode’s guests this week with Dr. John Neufeld. The Armstrong’s have worked in ministry for the Salvation Army for over 20 years, and in the last 10 years, have worked with Oasis Ministry which ministers to pastors at the point of crisis, and meeting with pastors to help them understand their roles. Join us for this episode as Dr. John discusses with the Armstrong’s about what pastoral leadership really is, and why so many pastors experience burnout.

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