Discussion about RACISM between WHITES and BLACKS are often heated exchanges where one side feels misunderstood, and the other side feels attacked.  Are we able to have a healthy dialogue about RACE that doesn't lead to more division?   Our special guests are two Americans of European descent, JOHN COSTINO, co-host of the RACE HAVEN podcast "A Safe Place to Discuss Race," and return guest, MARK CARMAN, a self proclaim conservative who wants to improve race relations in this country as we discuss HOW TO TALK TO WHITE PEOPLE ABOUT RACISM?  Mental Dialogue asking the questions America's afraid to ask. "ALL I ASK IS THAT YOU THINK"