Starting a business is hard. Scaling a business is much harder.

That’s one of the biggest takeaways from our interview with Brandon Weber, the co-founder and chief product officer of VTS.

VTS is the world's leading asset management and leasing platform, transforming an industry that until very recently has resisted the technological innovations that others have embraced.

With one foot in computer science and another in real estate, Brandon is the perfect person to bring this stodgy industry into the 21st century.

In this interview, Brandon walks us through this journey, including the trials and tribulations of scaling, and tells us why he and his biggest rival ultimately decided to join forces.

Plus, Brandon tells us why he believes an addiction to “Type 2” fun is one of the keys to entrepreneurial success in any industry.