What are the best things to say (and not say) to people who are walking through times of grief and suffering? In this episode, Sarah and Daniel sit down with Tim Marshall, Pastor of Care at Woodbury Lutheran Church. You will hear about Tim's journey from growing up as an unbeliever to becoming a pastor and what the joys and challenges are of a specialized pastoral role. Tim will also discuss the many unhelpful things that Christians tend to say to people walking through grief and suffering, and then, Tim shares some of the best things that you can say and do when you are walking with someone during those times of grief.

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