How did you propose to your wife? I have a friend who lives up in Springville. And they had horses, they have horses. And, I thought it would be neat to go on a little horseback ride with Mary and my friend and his girlfriend. And we went up into the hills, up above his house, a Springville canyon, and we were riding along. I had packed some breakfast because we left early in the morning and we got to a certain point and my friends, like, "Oh, who is there? who is there?" Someone saw his house and he said, I wanna go check that out.

And he and his date rode off real fast. And Mary's like, "What's that all about?" I got off the horse and kind of walked over to the edge, looking over this valley and so Mary got ... I help Marry down. We sat down and said, "oh, maybe we should just have some, you know, I packed some breakfast here you want you want some breakfast" and I gave her paper bag breakfast and she opened it up and she looked inside and she's like, Oh my, what is this?

And she pulled out a ring box and she opened up the ring box. And inside was one of my grandma's old bobbles, which is just fake jewelry, fake ring, was this big blob of green in a fake gold band and sheep held it up, and she's like, Oh, that's so funny. You scared me. And she laughed it off. And then I opened up my bag and I pulled out the real ring and opened it and asked her to marry me. So she said yes and we're happily married.

And that was, that was beginning. Well, I guess it wasn't the beginning, but it was the solidification of the beginning.