In this timely episode of Policy in Wonderland, we're joined by Stephen J. Pyne, America's preeminent fire historian and author of "The Pyrocene." From his 15 seasons fighting fires at the Grand Canyon to becoming a leading voice on fire's role in shaping our world, Pyne offers crucial insights into humanity's complex relationship with fire.

As wildfires impact communities worldwide, Pyne explains:

Whether you're in insurance, emergency services, or simply concerned about our changing world, this episode offers essential insights into one of humanity's oldest relationships.

Our thoughts are with those affected by wildfires - stay safe and informed.