Episode 53 of the How We Do Digital Ministry podcast features Pastor Jon Pyle, host of Better on the Inside and associate pastor at CityChurch. Jon and Charlotte Elia discuss serving Jesus without burning out, attending to personal and social grief, and finding joy in some of their favorite podcasts.

"People are defining church by where they get their care and not their content." - Pastor Jon Pyle

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Better on the Inside [1:05] 

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Episode 52 of the How We Do Digital Ministry podcast features Dr. Karen-Marie Yust and Dr. Erin Reibel from Real Kids Real Faith. Karen-Marie, Erin, and Charlotte Elia discuss nurturing children's spirituality online, growing in faith through questions rather than dogma, and seizing this opportunity for innovation. 

"The combination of the diminishing Sunday school and the reliance on online resources means that children's ministry needs to move toward providing those more direct resources to families, even if families are still intersecting with the church. Because on a Tuesday afternoon, when a parent is thinking, 'My child is asking this question and I don't know how to explore this issue with them,' they're not going to wait until the next Sunday they're in church to ask their pastor about that. They're going to Google it." - Dr. Karen-Marie Yust

"Your traditional Sunday school lesson is about putting information into a child, and what we are opting to do instead is to open up an avenue for them to explore their own spirituality." - Dr. Erin Reibel

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Growing Spiritually Through Exploring Questions [2:55] 

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Episode 51 of the How We Do Digital Ministry podcast features Rev. Ryan Dunn, Minister of Online Engagement with United Methodist Communications. Ryan and Charlotte Elia discuss creating digital content for seekers, focusing on your particular audience, and discerning which tools and tactics best suit your congregation.

"The future of the church is niche, and that doesn't mean all of our congregations are gonna be like very focused on one segment of the population. But I think ministry as a whole is going to be niche, that we're leaning more into a time where the way that we make meaning and create meaning for ourselves is very individualized." - Rev. Ryan Dunn

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Episode 50 of the How We Do Digital Ministry podcast features Pastor Nathan Webb from Checkpoint Church. Pastor Nate and Charlotte Elia discuss the origin of this online ministry for "nerds, geeks, and gamers," finding and building your community online, and the value of streaming for digital ministries. 

"That's the redemption happening is that I'm taking this media that's already being seen in a negative light and allowing even that media to point towards some kind of relationship with God or some kind of betterment with ourselves." - Pastor Nathan Webb

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A Three-Platform Approach [3:04]

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Episode 49 of the How We Do Digital Ministry podcast features The Rt. Rev. Dr. Shannon MacVean-Brown, Bishop of The Episcopal Diocese of Vermont. Bishop Shannon and Charlotte Elia discuss praying with The Green Mountain Online Abbey, facilitating difficult conversations on Zoom, discerning the future of the church through loss, and using digital tools to make the wide world a bit more intimate.  

"As a church, I think we need to do some work around loss. What does it mean to let go of things? And that will also ultimately help us understand how we are going to be the church in the future." - The Rt. Rev. Dr. Shannon MacVean-Brown

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First Experiments in Digital Ministry [1:08]

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Episode 48 of the How We Do Digital Ministry podcast features The Rev. Dr. Karyn Wiseman, Professor of homiletics at United Lutheran Seminary and Lead Pastor at Gloria Dei Church in Huntington Valley, Pennsylvania. Karyn and Charlotte Elia discuss congregational vitality through entrepreneurial ministry, the importance of public witness, and the urgency of preaching in this moment.

"A church has to be permission givers, and church leadership have to be permission givers. So when somebody comes in and says, I have this great idea, it's like, go for it. It doesn't have to go to six committees. It doesn't have to be approved in the budget a year from now. It's go for it. We'll find the money and the resources. Let's do it. Let's try it. That's what I wanna see in the church. And I think those are the churches that are being successful right now. They've just been giving permission to these new ways to be church." - Rev. Dr. Karyn Wiseman

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Training Pastors for the Church That Will Be [0:50]

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Episode 47 of the How We Do Digital Ministry podcast features Rev. Dr. Rachel Kessler, Harcourt Parish Rector, Kenyon College Chaplain, and @nerdypriest on TikTok. Rachel and Charlotte Elia discuss the phenomenon of her TikTok popularity, the challenges of navigating negativity, and the perceived demands of being a female pastor online.

"It's fairly easy to block people, and it's fairly easy to know what is not going be productive engagement. I think what's a lot more challenging is when is it worth time to really invest in the energy in engaging with someone, trying to figure out whether they are a troll or not?" - Rev. Dr. Rachel Kessler

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(1:30) From Shrove Tuesday to 45K Followers

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Episode 46 of the How We Do Digital Ministry podcast features Tom Trenney, Minister of Music to First-Plymouth Congregational Church in Lincoln, Nebraska and Assistant Professor of Music and Conductor of Choirs at Nebraska Wesleyan University. Tom and Charlotte Elia discuss music ministry in the hybrid environment, the impact of the digital sphere on sacred song, and encouragement for our future together.

"It doesn't have to be perfect to be good, and it sure doesn't have to be perfect to be meaningful and heartfelt." - Tom Trenney

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(0:54) Checking in with Church Musicians

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Episode 45 of How We Do Digital Ministry features Dr. Heidi Campbell, Professor of Communication and an affiliate faculty in Religious Studies at Texas A&M University. Heidi and Charlotte Elia discuss reflecting on our identity to discern the path forward, moving from a transfer model to a transformative stage, and reassessing who and what we want to be as a church.

"The things I was most excited about in the early days of the pandemic, as well as now, are those that moved onto what I call the transformation stage, where they're saying, okay, we're not just going to broadcast what was on the offline version and we're not just gonna adapt it to the online culture and features, but we're really going to look at what is the nature of church and the nature of mission that we're called to, and then change, not just the content or the holder, but also the practice as well." - Dr. Heidi Campbell

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(4:00) Continued Adaptability

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Episode 44 of How We Do Digital Ministry features Rev. Solomon Missouri, pastor at Kyles Temple AME Zion Church in Durham, NC. Solomon and Charlotte Elia discuss Twitter as a mission field, finding and using your voice, challenging preconceptions of the faith, and cultivating the vulnerability that creates community and promotes engagements.

"I am intentionally using the tool of Twitter to foster community to look at how we intersect the ideas of faith and life, the things we are looking to accomplish as Christians. I am introducing the ideas of progressivism into faith to understand, and to make a place for, individuals who are trying to bridge both the politics and the practices of faith life." - Rev. Solomon Missouri

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(2:28) Finding Your Voice on Twitter

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