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How We Have The Order Backwards With John Hibbs
Most people are taught that business exists to make money. John Hibbs spent years proving the order is backwards. In this conversation, he traces the line from a Guernsey childhood and a failed personal training studio to a model where people come first and money comes last, and makes a quietly radical case that love, not fear, is the better basis for building a company.
In this conversation
John tells the story of the client who told him, to his face, that he was no good at running a business, and the two ideas that changed everything after: measure what matters, and treat business as humans helping humans. He walks through The Monergy Flow, the model he drew on his kitchen blackboard. He names the decision gap, where leaders know what is wrong and still do nothing. And through CoEfficient’s work with Mind, he shows why mental health at work is set by conditions, not by support services added at the bottom of the cliff. It ends where the best conversations do, with a question he still cannot answer.
About John Hibbs
John Hibbs is an entrepreneur, certified company director and co-founder of CoEfficient, a data platform that helps organisations measure leadership, culture and workplace mental health. He is the creator of The Monergy Flow, works alongside Mind through the Workplace Partnership, and lives in Guernsey, next to the beach.
Resources
- CoEfficient — John’s data platform (coefficient-solutions.com)
- The Monergy Flow by John Hibbs
- John Hibbs on LinkedIn
- Mind — the mental health charity, and the Workplace Partnership originated by Guernsey Mind
- Alan Mulally — former CEO of Boeing Commercial Aeroplanes and Ford Motor Company r
- Corporate Rebels — referenced by Paul on autonomy and “square pegs in square holes”
GRACEWorks is a podcast for leaders, high achievers, and thoughtful humans who sense that success alone is no longer enough.
Hosted by Paul Crick, each episode explores what it means to lead, live, and work with GRACE especially when we find ourselves under pressure of some sort or another.
Through honest conversations, lived experience, and reflective inquiry, GRACEWorks invites you to move beyond relentless striving toward clarity, presence, and alignment.
If this episode resonated, you’re warmly invited to explore more conversations, reflections, and practices at GRACEWorks and to share this episode with someone who might need it.
© 2026, The Elevate Partnership Limited. All Rights Reserved.
Get full access to GRACEWorks at graceworkscollective.substack.com/subscribe
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By Paul CrickMost people are taught that business exists to make money. John Hibbs spent years proving the order is backwards. In this conversation, he traces the line from a Guernsey childhood and a failed personal training studio to a model where people come first and money comes last, and makes a quietly radical case that love, not fear, is the better basis for building a company.
In this conversation
John tells the story of the client who told him, to his face, that he was no good at running a business, and the two ideas that changed everything after: measure what matters, and treat business as humans helping humans. He walks through The Monergy Flow, the model he drew on his kitchen blackboard. He names the decision gap, where leaders know what is wrong and still do nothing. And through CoEfficient’s work with Mind, he shows why mental health at work is set by conditions, not by support services added at the bottom of the cliff. It ends where the best conversations do, with a question he still cannot answer.
About John Hibbs
John Hibbs is an entrepreneur, certified company director and co-founder of CoEfficient, a data platform that helps organisations measure leadership, culture and workplace mental health. He is the creator of The Monergy Flow, works alongside Mind through the Workplace Partnership, and lives in Guernsey, next to the beach.
Resources
- CoEfficient — John’s data platform (coefficient-solutions.com)
- The Monergy Flow by John Hibbs
- John Hibbs on LinkedIn
- Mind — the mental health charity, and the Workplace Partnership originated by Guernsey Mind
- Alan Mulally — former CEO of Boeing Commercial Aeroplanes and Ford Motor Company r
- Corporate Rebels — referenced by Paul on autonomy and “square pegs in square holes”
GRACEWorks is a podcast for leaders, high achievers, and thoughtful humans who sense that success alone is no longer enough.
Hosted by Paul Crick, each episode explores what it means to lead, live, and work with GRACE especially when we find ourselves under pressure of some sort or another.
Through honest conversations, lived experience, and reflective inquiry, GRACEWorks invites you to move beyond relentless striving toward clarity, presence, and alignment.
If this episode resonated, you’re warmly invited to explore more conversations, reflections, and practices at GRACEWorks and to share this episode with someone who might need it.
© 2026, The Elevate Partnership Limited. All Rights Reserved.
Get full access to GRACEWorks at graceworkscollective.substack.com/subscribe