Heidi and Tom head into a freewheeling conversation with MIT Futurist and optimist Andy McAfee. As co-founder and co-director of the MIT Initiative on the Digital Economy at the MIT Sloan School of Management, Andy studies how digital technologies are changing the world. Even Andy, sees the gravity of this moment. Heidi pushes hard on the big tech companies responsibility to step up, give back, and help lead in this crisis. Tom thinks it’s going to have to be government – reborn, revitalized, and very differently led than right now if we want a successful recovery. We dive in on how this moment is reshaping us as a society and economy. It’s all for the voters to decide, next.