Kate and Julia talk with Lillian Devane, comedian and co-host of FOH Pod, about the state of restaurant workers and the industry before, during and after COVID-19.

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Hosts: Kate Willett and Julia Claire

Producer: Genevieve Gearity

Theme Song: Emily Frembgen and Kate Willett

Artwork: Adrienne Lobl