While Australia is burning and The US might go to war with Iran, Jessica chats with comedian Andy Haynes about how to be a comedian and a person right now.

HT EP 16 ANDY HAYNES

Nobody usually wants to think, talk or hear about climate change so Jessica Sele decided to dedicate a whole podcast to broaching this huge bummer. While not taking it too lightly but not being so heavy handed as to give guests, listeners or herself anxiety attacks, she offers an earnest attempt to get at what is going on in our hearts while we destroy the planet.

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HT EP 16 ANDY HAYNES

HT EP 16 ANDY HAYNES