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Eric Hudson and I discuss the role of artificial intelligence (AI) in education, exploring how schools and educators can approach AI in a human-centered way. We talk about the misconceptions schools have about AI, the need to rethink traditional notions of "cheating" and academic integrity, the importance of active engagement with AI tools, and the need for comprehensive AI literacy education for both students and teachers.
Eric Hudson is a facilitator and strategic advisor who supports schools in making sense of the changes brought about by emerging technologies like AI. He has extensive experience working with schools and learning organizations around the world, and he specializes in learner-centered assessment, human-centered leadership, and strategic program design.
To learn more about Eric Hudson and his work, visit his website. The name of his Substack newsletter is Learning on Purpose. During our conversation, we referred to a framework for AI literacy by Digital Promise, linked here.
MUSIC. Point of Learning’s signature intro and outro are special instrumental versions of “Weight of the World” and “Villainous Thing,” respectively, authorized by their creator, Shayfer James, from his 2011 album Counterfeit Arcade. To find the latest tour and new release information for Shayfer James, visit his website. This episode features additional tracks by DJ Sluggy (aka Sluggz).
SPECIAL ASSISTANTS. Shoutouts to Heidi (murf.ai) and Claude (anthropic.ai) for augmenting today’s production. See below.
A screenshot of Peter’s interaction with Claude, a chatbot from anthropic. ai. Claude generated the response captured here in 2-3 seconds. (6/30/25)
Many people support this podcast in one way or another. Some are able to contribute financially, which sustains this passion project to share great ideas about what and how and why we learn. To make an episode that sounds like this takes me and my staff of zero other people about 40 hours. Be like Heidi (except more human) in today’s patron break and consider a one-time or recurring donation, which helps keep the lights on! There are two easy ways to donate!
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Eric Hudson and I discuss the role of artificial intelligence (AI) in education, exploring how schools and educators can approach AI in a human-centered way. We talk about the misconceptions schools have about AI, the need to rethink traditional notions of "cheating" and academic integrity, the importance of active engagement with AI tools, and the need for comprehensive AI literacy education for both students and teachers.
Eric Hudson is a facilitator and strategic advisor who supports schools in making sense of the changes brought about by emerging technologies like AI. He has extensive experience working with schools and learning organizations around the world, and he specializes in learner-centered assessment, human-centered leadership, and strategic program design.
To learn more about Eric Hudson and his work, visit his website. The name of his Substack newsletter is Learning on Purpose. During our conversation, we referred to a framework for AI literacy by Digital Promise, linked here.
MUSIC. Point of Learning’s signature intro and outro are special instrumental versions of “Weight of the World” and “Villainous Thing,” respectively, authorized by their creator, Shayfer James, from his 2011 album Counterfeit Arcade. To find the latest tour and new release information for Shayfer James, visit his website. This episode features additional tracks by DJ Sluggy (aka Sluggz).
SPECIAL ASSISTANTS. Shoutouts to Heidi (murf.ai) and Claude (anthropic.ai) for augmenting today’s production. See below.
A screenshot of Peter’s interaction with Claude, a chatbot from anthropic. ai. Claude generated the response captured here in 2-3 seconds. (6/30/25)
Many people support this podcast in one way or another. Some are able to contribute financially, which sustains this passion project to share great ideas about what and how and why we learn. To make an episode that sounds like this takes me and my staff of zero other people about 40 hours. Be like Heidi (except more human) in today’s patron break and consider a one-time or recurring donation, which helps keep the lights on! There are two easy ways to donate!
PoL Sponsors: Aaron Bartley, Gilberto Belaval, Mary Rappl Bellanti, Raj Bhandari, Melinda Bihn, Gretchen & David Brand, Jenni and Robbie Brand, Jake Brown, Heather Carson-Wake, Patty Cruice, Ryan Daly, David Davis, James Duggan, Dave Eisenberg, Phillip Ellis, Anna Falicov, Errick L. Greene, Krista Haley, Jonathan Hiam, Gregory Horn, Janice & John & Ava & Brooke Horn, The Idari Collective, Greg Jackson, Kevin Johnson, Zack Kramer, Maureen and Alan Lantis, Tim Lear, Janet & Robert Lee, Kristen Lee, Robyn Lee, Tom Loughlin, Susan Lytle, Carol MacVey, Jacob Marley, Linda B. Matt, Ellen McLaughlin, J. W. Gregg Meister, Miriam Meister, Sarah & Peter Meister, Dwight Nolt, Julia Olff, Monica & Rowland Richards, Gail & Frank Richeson, Friends of Diana Rochford, Stacy Rodgers, Robert Rossiter, Elizabeth & Terry Rowlands, Paula A. Roy, Dale Schmid, Brendan Sullivan, Emily Style, Marue Walizer, John B. Webb, Keith Zemsky, Vana Zervanos
STAY in touchIf you’re interested in the newsletter that will tell you whenever a new episode drops, it only takes a few seconds to sign up!

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