In this conversation, Steven Denney of the Munk School of Global Affairs at the University of Toronto and a Senior Editor at SinoNK.com joins host Andre Goulet to discuss the South Korean diplomatic delegation's visit to Pyongyang and why the staggering potential human cost of a war on the Korean peninsula is unthinkable.

Plus: what was up with last January's weird Vancouver summit on Security and Stability on the Korean Peninsula organized by Minister of Foreign Affairs Chrystia Freeland and the U.S. State Department?

This conversation was recorded on March 9th, 2018.

Music on this episode is Yoo-jin's 'Guliu-man Soo-ang-inae' (1979)

Mastered by Chris Hernandez at Studio Petit Palais.