In this episode, Kat sits down with Emily Gill (founder at Levra and recognised as one of the Top 50 Women in Tech) for a real conversation about modern busyness, perfectionism, and the habits that protect human performance.

They unpack why we’ve become human doings, how tiny “basic” habits (sleep, breathing, movement) create outsized impact, and why human skills like empathy, connection and communication are becoming even more valuable in the age of AI.

What you’ll hear in this episode

• Why life feels like we’re being pulled in “50,000 directions” - and how to decide what deserves your energy today
• The perfectionism trap: “Sometimes good enough is enough”
• Kat’s take: we’ve shifted from human beings → human doings (and what constant consumption is doing to our brains)
• The habit most people ignore: the wind-down routine (and why we treat kids better than ourselves at bedtime!)
• Why we don’t do the basics… even when we know they work
• How Kat creates change in teams: pattern disruption + questions that help people see it for themselves
• The power of shared experience: real behaviour change happens when people realise they’re not alone
• Emily’s insight: human connection is what “fills up our soul” — and why loneliness is a real performance problem
• Why discomfort is part of growth (and why in-person connection is coming back)
• Phones, attention, and the impact on family connection (the restaurant moment that hit hard)
• Emily on AI: automation will rise - so human skills (empathy, conflict management, reading the room, asking better questions) become the differentiator
• A brilliant reframe: kids wear an Elsa outfit with full confidence… what would change if adults did life with that energy?

ABOUT THE GUEST

Emily Gill is the Co-Founder of LEVRA, an award-winning EdTech company solving Human Skills gaps for businesses by using psychometrics, and AI to measure and develop Human Skills, such as communication, teamwork and EQ. A former Finance Lawyer at Clifford Chance, she completed her MBA at the University of Oxford and has been recognised as one of the Top 50 UK Women in Tech. Emily is a Certified Coach (CPCC) and serves as Chair of School Governors at Harris Clapham.

LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilygilllevra/

ABOUT HOST KAT

Kat started her career as a teacher, before moving into Tech where she worked in different executive roles within teaching and consulting working across the globe, both in the public and private sector. Despite appearing 'successful' on the outside, she paid a heavy ‘life’ price. In 2016, her whole world collapsed. The reason? The compound effect of years of unhealthy and toxic habits that destroyed her health, relationship, and career.

She rebuilt herself by changing just one small habit and built a series of positive habits which has transformed her professional and personal performance, resulting in becoming the healthiest and happiest version of herself. She is a positive habits international keynote speaker and teacher, giving talks and delivering high impact programmes to organisations across the globe.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/katthorne 

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