If President Donald Trump has already made fateful choices in the new coronavirus crisis, wait for what's to come. Trump appears unwilling if not unlikely to wait on the advice of medical professionals before nudging American society back to life. It's as stark and bleak a choice as any president can face: human life or economic life. Guest: Ron Klain, former Ebola response coordinator for President Obama Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Human Life or Economic Life?

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Don't call it a "State of the Union." President Joe Biden tonight will address a joint session of Congress, 99 days after being sworn into office. Powerhouse Politics speaks with White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki about what the look, sound and substance of the speech will be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

"We Can't Afford Not To Go Big"

For the guilty findings in connection with the killing of George Floyd to mark a true turning point will take much more than verdicts in Minneapolis. It falls now to a president elected on the promise of unity to both heal and advance policy in tense and still-uncertain times. ABC's Rachel Scott joins from Minneapolis to talk about the road ahead. Plus, Susan Page, Washington Bureau Chief for USA Today, talks about her newly released biography of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Guest: Susan Page, author of “Madam Speaker: Nancy Pelosi and the Lessons of Power”  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

"A Master of the Inside Game"

President Joe Biden said Wednesday that he would withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan before the 20th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks because "it is time to end America’s longest war." Meanwhile, April 28th has been announced as the date of President Biden's first address to a joint session of Congress. Guest: Journalist, Neil King Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

"One Thing Leads to Another"

Amid the fallout over Georgia's new sweeping elections law, Texas Democrats and voting rights activists are strategizing how to get some of the state's biggest employers to apply political pressure on lawmakers weighing restrictive voting bills in the Lone Star State. Plus, Governor Asa Hutchinson joins to talk about the Arkansas state legislature's vote on Tuesday to override his veto on a bill that would ban gender-affirming treatments for transgender youths in the state. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

"Over-Broad" & "Extreme"

The $1.9 trillion COVID relief bill got more attention and its goals may matter more in addressing the challenges of the moment. But President Joe Biden's two-phase jobs and infrastructure package will carry a larger price tag along with potentially greater implications.  Guest: Senator Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill), author of the new book, "Every Day Is A Gift" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Human Life or Economic Life?

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