Orwell prize winning author, rapper and TV presenter Darren McGarvey joins musician, lecturer and SongSeeds creator Becci wallace for a discussion about Scottish world cup songs, touring , how to relax, the 13th note vs the flying Duck, the UFC fight at the Whitehouse , Jeff Epstein (no that one , the booking agent for Milli Vanilli) , dress code festival, books, Jay Z's accapella, the cycling event which cancelled a tour , and much more. This show exists thanks to our supporters at http://patreon.com/YouCallThatRadio and follow our socials over at http://linktr.ee/YCTR