Cybersecurity pro and undercover CIA officer-turned-Republican Rep. Will Hurd joins New America’s Peter Singer and Passcode’s Sara Sorcher to talk about what it's like to be the rare cybersecurity expert in Congress; why he went to DEF CON this summer; and why he's disappointed the Office of Personnel Management never apologized for allowing his personal information to fall into the hands of hackers. Hurd, a freshman, is chairman of the IT subcommittee on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. 

Next up: Chris Valasek. He made headlines this summer by demonstrating a live hack of a Jeep Cherokee with a Wired reporter in it – work that forced a recall of some 1.4 million Chrysler vehicles. Now a security lead at Uber’s advanced technologies center, Valasek joins the podcast to talk about the line between drawing needed attention to cybersecurity issues and a dangerous stunt; how companies can make themselves available for "free quality assurance" hackers can provide; and security concerns within the Internet of Things. This podcast is sponsored by Arizona State University.