Our guest on the podcast this week is Rob Hirschfeld, Founder and CEO at RackN. We discuss the differences between Docker Swarm and Kubernetes as well as the debate about how many companies use containers the right way. We also look at hybrid and how it can be easy to lift a container from Amazon and move it to Google, but there will still be key differences in networking and storage between the two that make the shift more complex. Last, we talk about the pros and cons of going all in on one vendor.