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You moved to another country, fell in love with a new version of life — maybe even a new version of your partner — and then something shifted. You came back different. They came back different. And nobody warned you that reentry might be the hardest part of the whole adventure.

In this episode, Katie sits down with Naomi Hathaway, founder of the viral I Am a Triangle movement and creator of Leaving Well — a practice that's helping individuals, couples, and organizations navigate transitions with intention, not just survival mode.

Together, Katie and Naomi unpack the geometry of identity change: what it means to be a square (home), move to a circle (new country), and become a triangle — someone who can never fully go back, but also never fully belongs somewhere new. And if you add kids, cultures, or a partner from another country? You become a star. (Yes, in the best and most complicated way.)

You'll walk away understanding:

• Why you fell in love with one version of your partner and came home to another
• How couples can make the leave or stay decision together without resentment
• Why writing down your "why" might be the most underrated relationship tool
• What "Leaving Well" looks like — in moves, in jobs, and in life

This one is for every couple who has lived abroad, moved across the world together, or simply felt like strangers in a life they built.

Connect with Naomi:

Instagram: https://instagram.com/naomihattaway 

LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/naomihattaway 

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