Jon and Jeff continue the conversation with Ira Williams regarding the racial challenges that our country is facing in the wake of the murder of George Floyd. This is a continuation of the conversation that began with Episode #19 entitled, "I Can't Breathe!". The theme today is have we had enough time to become aware, empathize, and (as Ira makes reference) "Sit Shiva", while we simultaneously set the legislative wheels into motion to begin creating solutions? It is a difficult balance. How do we move forward before bitterness sets in?