Gary Swick founded and grew SWICKtech to help people and companies have a good experience with their computer systems. It’s now grown into a cybersecurity, IT, and compliance firm, and he’s recently retired and turned the company over to others’ leadership. In this episode, Gary shares wisdom from both his entrepreneurial journey and his transition--and numerous counterintuitive surprises along the way.

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