In this episode, Sylvia shares a powerful story about bungee jumping in New Zealand—and how, in the moment afterward, she realized she had forgotten to be afraid. That simple phrase becomes the thread that runs through the entire conversation. Kristen takes it a step further, asking a thoughtful question: Is it really a "fear of failure" - as they saying goes - or a fear of how people will judge us after we fail? This honest and meaningful dialogue explores what it takes to face fear and move forward. We hope you enjoy listening as much as we loved recording it.