It's Martin Luther King Day early this year... or late. Regardless, Matt, Ross, and Mike step up to the plate and talk MLK's legacy, how the nature of race conversations seem to have changed between 1968 and 2022, and how they'd talk to their kids about race.

"Complaining about (accusations) of white privilege is small change compared with what Black people have had to deal with in the context of racism."

--Matt

"Why is the political discussion whether or not something's a problem and not a question of the manner in which to go about solving it?"

--Mike

"The elephant in the room is that, no matter how great of a point we might make, at the end of the day, we're three white guys and we don't know what it's like to live 50, 60, 70 years as a minority."

--Mike

"I think the reason that the conversation on race gets messy now is because our culture can't use God as the center in that conversation anymore."

--Matt

The intro for this episode is a performance of excerpts of "I Have A Dream" by children from Watkins Elementary School students. The video of that performance can be accessed here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8_1NYYKixM