While waiting for Andy's return, Anna chats with her "big brother", the righteous Ryan Taylor. They discuss working from home, apprenticeships, front-end portfolios, and working with a hybrid designer/developer.

This episode is sponsored by Hammer for Mac, the nifty development tool for designers and developers, and Beyond Tellerrand, a conference and workshop event for the web community. Beyond Tellerrand is happening May 27th to the 29th in Düsseldorf in Germany. Use the offer code unfinished4 for 10% off the standard price.