In this emotional conversation, Deb speaks with family friend Katie Palmer, who shares her deeply personal journey of navigating the complexities of her relationship with her mother, Sarah, who passed away after a long battle with cancer. Katie opens up about the family dynamics, the impact of codependency, and the healing process that followed her mother’s death.

She reflects on the lessons grief taught her, the importance of self-love, and how her experiences have shaped her journey as both a singer and therapist. The conversation explores the transformative power of love, loss, and personal growth, highlighting how profound challenges can lead to powerful healing and deeper understanding of oneself.

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