This episode is sponsored by Kelly Fitzgerald Fowler's children's book THE AMAZING MR. BIG, a roller coaster of a book that tells every major story in the Bible in just over 200 words! https://kellyfitzgeraldfowler.com/the-amazing-mr-big/

In our first jam, we talk about someone most of us still love--the one and only Lucille Ball, of I LOVE LUCY fame. Susan has some insights into her career and her marriage to Desi Arnaz, and Kelly talks about her favorite episodes and the impact they had on her. Don't miss this one; we had a 'ball' doing it!

We really get into the weeds in Jam 2, talking about great athletes and what happens to them when their athletic careers are over. If you're Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods, how do you re-capture the passion of your playing days when you have to stop playing, sometimes sooner than you wanted to, because of injuries or other factors? Is anything on earth as exciting, ever again? What can you do to bring back that excitement? Where does your focus go now? This jam includes a great quote from the movie THE NATURAL, as well as some deep philosophical musings by Kelly and Susan.