In this honest and vulnerable conversation, Jess and Jonathan talk about a topic that doesn’t get discussed enough — backsliding.

What does it really look like to drift from God? Is it a sudden fall, or a slow fade? And how do you find your way back?

They share personal experiences and unpack:

The difference between struggling with sin and becoming comfortable in it

What it looks like to live a “double life” while still showing up to church

How community and accountability help prevent spiritual drift

Why some people walk away, while others feel pulled back to God

The hope found in God’s grace, even when we run

This episode is about the messy middle of faith — the tension between knowing the truth and not always living it, and the reminder that it’s never too late to come back.

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