Do you know there were women who survived Ted Bundy?  Do you actually know anything about his victims or survivors?  What does It say about us that we focus on the criminal and not the victims?

I had the pleasure of speaking with Bundy survivor, Kathy Kleiner Rubin about her experience, but also about how It shaped her mission In life and the friendships she's shared.

On this 42nd anniversary of the attack of the FSU Chi Omega house, join Kathy and me as we talk about finding a deep Inner strength...

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