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On this episode of My Problematic Past, Elise is in the hot seat for the first time. She discusses her past as a young Zionist and the indoctrination that she eventually was able to get away from. Lucy and Elise discuss her "Birthright" trip to Israel, doing army crawling with IDF soldiers at summer camp and singing the Israeli National Anthem. Elise traces how she was able to finally deprogram this genocidal ideology and work to advocate for Palestinians and anti-Zionism.

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