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Episode 672: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) and Shaan Puri ( https://x.com/ShaanVP ) talk to Matt Mullenweg ( https://x.com/photomatt ), the founder of WordPress and Automattic. 

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Show Notes: 

(0:00) Turning down $200M at 24

(6:04) WordPress's 1000 days of irrelevance

(9:24) Turning a small South African company into $3B

(13:40) The battle of giants - WooCommerce vs Shopify

(18:37) Matt's Villain Arc

(30:07) Auditions > Interviews

(36:04) Putting every employee on the front line

(42:56) Matt on Deepseek

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Links:

• Automattic - https://automattic.com/ 

• WordPress - https://wordpress.com/ 

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Check Out Shaan's Stuff:

• Shaan's weekly email - https://www.shaanpuri.com 

• Visit https://www.somewhere.com/mfm to hire worldwide talent like Shaan and get $500 off for being an MFM listener. Hire developers, assistants, marketing pros, sales teams and more for 80% less than US equivalents.

• Mercury - Need a bank for your company? Go check out Mercury (mercury.com). Shaan uses it for all of his companies!

Mercury is a financial technology company, not an FDIC-insured bank. Banking services provided by Choice Financial Group, Column, N.A., and Evolve Bank & Trust, Members FDIC

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Check Out Sam's Stuff:

• Hampton - https://www.joinhampton.com/

• Ideation Bootcamp - https://www.ideationbootcamp.co/

• Copy That - https://copythat.com

• Hampton Wealth Survey - https://joinhampton.com/wealth

• Sam’s List - http://samslist.co/

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