Hello!

Hope you're all doing well. Andrew Musgrove brings you this additional episode as he looks once again at Newcastle United's decision to change the club crest.

Andrew is joined by Dan Rolinson - an Aston Villa podcaster.

Aston Villa are one of many clubs to have changed their crest in recent years - with Villa doing so TWICE in the space of a year!

Dan shares the lessons United must learn from the process.

00:00 Introduction

02:15 The club crest WILL NOT be a circle

03: 15 The leaked badge

05:10 Welcome Dan

06:07 So what happened at Villa?

10:15 Process of change

11:10 Surveys...

14:54 What was wrong with the circle badge?

17:21 A change of badge after just months of a new badge?

20:00 The change of lion... did it matter?

22:12 Why did Villa change the badge?

24:50 First consultation praised! Second not so much!

30:45 Moving from shield to circle!

32:50 Musgrove opened to change

35:35 Is this why NUFC want change?

38: 08 Keen to avoid having to change like Villa did

39:57 Toon fans share their view

42:25 Villa 'ignoring' survey results?

45:00 All in or not?

46:00 Lessons to be learned!

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