There is no greater expert in the field of Adaptive Leadership than Hugh O'Doherty. From his roots in Northern Ireland until his present day work with leaders in Ghana as well as with students at the Harvard Kennedy School, Professor O'Doherty has wandered wisely far and wide to create a safer, reconciled world into being. Hugh sits down w/ Jim and Howie to share some of his stories. Pay particular attention for the "Saturday matinee" and "Mr. X." narratives to learn why justice is so important to Hugh and to us. Jim brings up the concept of bids based upon the Gottman Institute's relational counseling work while Howie brings it all down to the family, friendship levels. All of this undergirded by the notion of searching for God when God is already present. Listen closely for this closing conversation. Happy Advent 2