On this week's show we chat with artist Ian Cheng, who since 2012 has been building a universe of sentient software, creatures, and elaborate systems of logic in the form of self-playing video games, installations, drawings, and prints. In this extended chat with host Ben Fino-Radin, Ian shares some of his deepest influences, past mentors, childhood, studio practice and rituals for creativity.

Links from the conversation with Ian
> Ian's website: http://iancheng.com
> Life After Bob: https://theshed.org/program/142-ian-cheng-life-after-bob
> Pierre Huyghe: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Huyghe
> Paul Chan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Chan_(artist)

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