Matt Crawford speaks with writer, film maker, musician and artist Ian Svenonius about his latest book, Against the Written Word.  Ian and I talk about all the different projects he is working on as well as his 30 plus year career as an artist. We discuss the state of our society and how art is being hamstrung by the corporate model of ownership, as well as how the industry has shifted. I hope you will all give a listen and follow up with your own conversations.