The Order Up crew chat with award-winning novelist and poet Ian Williams. We get his thoughts on pizza, discover his feelings on Pizza Pizza pizza, and even talk a little cereal.

Ian Williams - Second Cousins

Order Up! is a podcast hosted, produced, and created by Matthew Ardill, Cari Haim, Mary Kennedy, and Kelly Zemnickis – four friends who love to talk food. But as much as they love food, they do have some questions.

Each episode of the podcast will include special guests and fun questions like, "What's a dish that brings you back to childhood?" but also feature one main question per season. For the first six episodes, they will try to figure out "Is a Hamburger a Sandwich?" with future seasons investigating: "Is Cereal Soup?", "Are Hotdogs Sandwiches?", and "What's Better: Pancakes or Waffles?"

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Order Up! is a podcast hosted, produced, and created by Matthew Ardill, Cari Haim, Mary Kennedy, and Kelly Zemnickis – four friends who love to talk food. But as much as they love food, they do have some questions. Each episode of the podcast will include special guests and fun questions like, "What's a dish that brings you back to childhood?" but also feature one main question per season. For the first six episodes, they will try to figure out "Is a Hamburger a Sandwich?" with future seasons investigating: "Is Cereal Soup?", "Are Hotdogs Sandwiches?", and "What's Better: Pancakes or Waffles?"

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