Here we have the first face to face guest in The Abattoir, the great JULIAN DEANE. One of the Vegan Idiots (podcast) and finest joke writers on the UK comedy circuit. Jussie was under the weather for this one with a bad dose of the old genetically modified man made bio weapon from Wuhan. Not really a conspiracy heavy chat but more a rambling classic podcast episode where Jussie tried to keep up his end of the banter train but was, in hindsight, too ill to be recording a f*cking podcast.