IBM has announced a $30 billion investment in quantum computing. Today we ask why. In this episode, Oliver Dial, CTO of IBM Quantum, speaks with Jeremy and Mark from the Think Lab in New York.

This is the inside story of how IBM plans to make quantum useful and how quantum computing could reshape material science, chemistry, and the architecture of technology itself.

It's all written in their roadmap. Starling in 2029, fault tolerant quantum computing

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Cheers, Mark and Jeremy

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Links and resources:

IBM Quantum: ⁠https://quantum.ibm.com/⁠

Starling press release: ⁠https://newsroom.ibm.com/2025-06-10-I...⁠

Blog: ⁠https://www.ibm.com/quantum/blog/larg...⁠

IBM Roadmap updates: ⁠   • 2025 IBM Quantum Roadmap update  ⁠

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Chapters

(00:00) IBM's Quantum Investment

(02:11) The IBM Roadmap to Quantum Advantage

(05:00) Error Mitigation vs. Fault Tolerance

(07:47) The Hybrid Quantum-Classical Approach

(10:18) Physical vs. Logical Qubits

(12:45) Magic States and Universal Quantum Computing

(15:15) Loon, Kookaburra & Future IBM Developments and Milestones

(17:12) The Future of IBM Quantum Computing

(19:11) A Day in the Life of an IBM Quantum CTO

(21:25) Building a Quantum Workforce

(23:37) The Intersection of AI and Quantum

(25:40) Practical Applications of Quantum Technology

(28:02) Why Quantum Matters to Humanity