Picture the scene, the Beer garden in L. Mulligan Grocers of Stoneybatter, a gorgeous sunny Saturday. What better than to spend a part of the afternoon tasting beers from North Tipperary's Canvas Brewery

Taking the rule book of convention, and tossing it on the fires of Mad Max, listen to Maurice and Mark talk about the origins, the aspirations, and plans for Canvas.

This was recorded outdoors, and there is some background noise, and some of the audience members were quite quiet, so we've boosted audio as best we can

Incidentally the cheese maker is