When immigration, policing, and white supremacy collide, whole communities pay the price. This episode of Badly Governed breaks down how ICE raids, white nationalism, and the U.S. criminal legal system work together to target Black and Brown people under the banner of “public safety” and “border security.” We look directly at who gets labeled a criminal, who is treated as worthy of protection, and how state violence is justified through racialized fear.

Our guest, Amy “Amy Mac” McDonald—content creator and host of the Foolish Optimist podcast- joins us to talk about the real‑life impact of immigration enforcement: unannounced raids, families living in constant fear, and neighborhoods reshaped by detention and deportation. Together, we examine how white privilege structures every step of this process and why dismantling that power is essential for any honest conversation about ICE, mass incarceration, and who truly gets to belong in America.

Resources:

Triolo, T. (2025). The empathy gap: It is Black and White. Self-published.

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References:

Pillai, A., Pillai, D., & Artiga, S. (2025, September 30). Health issues for immigrants in detention centers. KFF. https://www.kff.org/racial-equity-and-health-policy/health-issues-for-immigrants-in-detention-centers/

Pinedo, M., & Valdez, C. R. (2020). Immigration enforcement policies and the mental health of US citizens: Findings from a comparative analysis. American Journal of Community Psychology, 66(3–4), 427–439. https://doi.org/10.1002/ajcp.12464

Credits:

Host & Executive Producer: Lydje Lahens

Producer: Lydje Lahens

Writers: Lydje Lahens and Amy McDonald

Videographer: Anthony Schultz

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